From eric at projectliberty.org  Wed Jan  9 13:38:53 2008
From: eric at projectliberty.org (Eric Tiffany)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:38:53 -0500
Subject: [Igf-dev] [wsf-dev] CARML C and Scripting APIs
In-Reply-To: <1199911335.478531a7af477@plankton.symlabs.net>
Message-ID: <C3AAA91D.282D4%eric@projectliberty.org>

I think you want to send these questions to igf-dev.

ET


On 1/9/08 3:42 PM, "sampo at directoryscript.org" <sampo at directoryscript.org>
wrote:

> I wonder about the nature of coming API for CARML. I would like to see
> a C API that would be converted to script language, and perhaps
> even Java, APIs using SWIG.
> 
> Is anyone else interested in this type of effort?
> 
> Cheers
> --Sampo
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Wsf-dev mailing list
> Wsf-dev at lists.openliberty.org
> http://lists.openliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/wsf-dev_lists.openliberty.org

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From eric at projectliberty.org  Wed Jan  9 13:39:57 2008
From: eric at projectliberty.org (Eric Tiffany)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:39:57 -0500
Subject: [Igf-dev] FW: CARML examples
In-Reply-To: <1199910838.47852fb63f504@plankton.symlabs.net>
Message-ID: <C3AAA95D.282D5%eric@projectliberty.org>

Sampo sent this to the wsf-dev instead of here.

ET
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------ Forwarded Message
From: <sampo at directoryscript.org>
Date: Wed,  9 Jan 2008 15:33:58 -0500
To: <wsf-dev at lists.openliberty.org>
Cc: <sampo at symlabs.com>, <eric at projectliberty.org>
Subject: CARML examples

Does anyone have a simple example CARML document just to illustrate what
this stuff
looks like?

Cheers,
--Sampo

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From phil.hunt at oracle.com  Wed Jan  9 13:47:21 2008
From: phil.hunt at oracle.com (Phil Hunt)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:47:21 -0500
Subject: [Igf-dev] [wsf-dev] CARML C and Scripting APIs
In-Reply-To: <C3AAA91D.282D4%eric@projectliberty.org>
References: <C3AAA91D.282D4%eric@projectliberty.org>
Message-ID: <675E6AA9-564F-4C21-A802-539045B19328@oracle.com>

That's certainly the ultimate goal. I'd also say we'd like to see  
even a .Net implementation.

Right now...the focus is on Java simply as a starting point.  I'm  
definitely open.

One of the later projects should also be to integrate with the  
popular development environments. In other words, just as most IDE's  
provide lots of nice RDBMS tools, there should be useful if not  
superior tools for identity services that help developers make good  
use of these APIs.

Sampo...would you like to work on the C implementation? Would it be  
better to start now, or at a later time when the first implementation  
is done in Java?

Phil Hunt
Oracle


On 9-Jan-08, at 4:38 PM, Eric Tiffany wrote:

> I think you want to send these questions to igf-dev.
>
> ET
>
>
> On 1/9/08 3:42 PM, "sampo at directoryscript.org"  
> <sampo at directoryscript.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I wonder about the nature of coming API for CARML. I would like to  
>> see
>> a C API that would be converted to script language, and perhaps
>> even Java, APIs using SWIG.
>>
>> Is anyone else interested in this type of effort?
>>
>> Cheers
>> --Sampo
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wsf-dev mailing list
>> Wsf-dev at lists.openliberty.org
>> http://lists.openliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/wsf- 
>> dev_lists.openliberty.org
>
> -- 
> ____________________________________________________
> Eric  Tiffany             |  eric at projectliberty.org
> Interop Tech  Lead        |  +1 413-458-3743
> Liberty Alliance          |  +1 413-627-1778 mobile
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Igf-dev mailing list
> Igf-dev at lists.openliberty.org
> http://lists.openliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/igf- 
> dev_lists.openliberty.org



From phil.hunt at oracle.com  Wed Jan  9 13:52:05 2008
From: phil.hunt at oracle.com (Phil Hunt)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:52:05 -0500
Subject: [Igf-dev] FW: CARML examples
In-Reply-To: <C3AAA95D.282D5%eric@projectliberty.org>
References: <C3AAA95D.282D5%eric@projectliberty.org>
Message-ID: <D457A039-1941-476C-A55D-5BDCDFDF373B@oracle.com>

There is a sample document (based on Oracle's early draft spec)  
published on the original Oracle site at:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/standards/idm/igf/index.html

I have actually had to revise the schema (now version 4) in draft  
within the openliberty site due to the omission of "operation" as  
part of a namedInteraction that was defined in the MRD.

If you want, you can pick up the latest draft schema file from  
sourceforge (linked off the openliberty site).

I'm getting close to checking in the first major block of code, but  
want to do some more clean-up first as well as getting rudimentary  
JUnit tests working.

Phil Hunt
Oracle


On 9-Jan-08, at 4:39 PM, Eric Tiffany wrote:

> Sampo sent this to the wsf-dev instead of here.
>
> ET
> -- 
> ____________________________________________________
> Eric  Tiffany             |  eric at projectliberty.org
> Interop Tech  Lead        |  +1 413-458-3743
> Liberty Alliance          |  +1 413-627-1778 mobile
>
>
> ------ Forwarded Message
> From: <sampo at directoryscript.org>
> Date: Wed,  9 Jan 2008 15:33:58 -0500
> To: <wsf-dev at lists.openliberty.org>
> Cc: <sampo at symlabs.com>, <eric at projectliberty.org>
> Subject: CARML examples
>
> Does anyone have a simple example CARML document just to illustrate  
> what
> this stuff
> looks like?
>
> Cheers,
> --Sampo
>
> ------ End of Forwarded Message
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Igf-dev mailing list
> Igf-dev at lists.openliberty.org
> http://lists.openliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/igf- 
> dev_lists.openliberty.org



From phil.hunt at oracle.com  Thu Jan 10 07:47:00 2008
From: phil.hunt at oracle.com (Phil Hunt)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:47:00 -0500
Subject: [Igf-dev] IGF Dev Call
Message-ID: <F386356D-5E81-480C-8F4D-D9D0C8633C9D@oracle.com>

Due to the Liberty TEG F2F meeting in Boston this week, today's call  
is cancelled.

If you were planning on attending, please let me know and I'll be  
happy to brief you directly.

Cheers,

Phil Hunt
Oracle


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From PHIL.HUNT at oracle.com  Fri Jan 18 17:36:13 2008
From: PHIL.HUNT at oracle.com (Phil Hunt)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:36:13 -0800
Subject: [Igf-dev] New schema drafts for attribute services
Message-ID: <35600E64-FB9D-42EF-B62B-5C58B0B9D742@oracle.com>

Based on consultative feedback over the past few weeks, I have done  
some significant updates to the CARML schema file.  I have attached 4  
new files.

The changes to the original CARML draft can be summarized as follows:
* Schema has now been separated from NamedInteractions (now called  
Interactions). This allows developers to use standardized schemas  
independent of transaction definitions
* Properties are now called "Predicates"
* We now have a 3rd type of information called a "Role". Because  
roles can manifest in many different ways, it is important to allow  
the developer to describe their intent in the CARML schema. This  
allows for the identity service to decide how best to implement the  
role.
* Policy elements have been removed and replaced with support for WS- 
Policy
* The original CARML policy items are now specified in igf- 
AppIdPolicy and igf-DeployIdPolicy. These define WS-Policy assertions  
that may be used by a developer or by a deployer.
* A new run-time schema file igf-TransactionMetadata represents IGF  
related data that may be transmitted over-the-wire. Note: this file  
is merely meant as suggestive only. Each protocol that is profiled  
will likely have a different way of transferring this metadata.

These revisions are *draft* only and of course are subject to change.  
They are provided under the terms of Apache 2.0 license as per the  
openLiberty project licensing.

Also, I must apologize for not checking in the first drop of the  
attribute services API. With these revisions to schema, I am doing a  
lot of re-working of the code. I hope to have something in a couple  
of weeks.

If anyone is available this Thursday, I propose we talk about these  
new XML schemas on the regular IGF-dev call.  If you are planning to  
attend, please let me know.

Phil Hunt
Oracle

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From phil.hunt at oracle.com  Mon Jan 21 20:10:49 2008
From: phil.hunt at oracle.com (Phil Hunt)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:10:49 -0800
Subject: [Igf-dev] Migration to SVC
Message-ID: <E3DD37AA-7493-4FB4-8E7A-68DBE672C795@oracle.com>

FYI...

Before we get too far down the road with a lot of code check-ins  
under CVS, now seemed like a good time to convert to SVN so the IGF  
project could be in alignment with the openLiberty ClientLib project.

More information on the IGF repository can be found at:
	https://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=204592


Please note, I have also checked in the new draft CARML and Policy  
schemas as per my last e-mail.

For those using CVS, the repository is still there. But there will be  
no more updates to that location.

Cheers,

Phil Hunt
Oracle


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From phil.hunt at oracle.com  Wed Jan 23 15:34:27 2008
From: phil.hunt at oracle.com (Phil Hunt)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:34:27 -0800
Subject: [Igf-dev] Revisions to schema and revised definitions
Message-ID: <27E7EBB3-49D4-439E-815D-195AB686CF43@oracle.com>

I have posted a minor update to the carml schema. Specifically the  
Name attributes were changed to xml type "ID".  This was so  
Attributes, Predicates etc can be referenced properly within an  
Interaction.

The schema file is available in SVN at:
http://idgov.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/idgov/IGF_AttrSvcs/trunk/ 
org.openliberty.igf.attributeServices/schemas/igf-carml-07.xsd?view=log

Also please find attached some discussion about the schema items  
including descriptions of attributes, predicates, roles, filters and  
policy assertions.

Phil Hunt
Oracle

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