[wsf-dev] [DataPortability-Public] Re: What's happening at OpenSocial?

[Brett McDowell]

Given the decision of the Steering Committee last night, I would suggest we
kick-off an "experiment" using Liberty's People Service to support this use
case.  We have some Java library implementations of People Service at
www.openliberty.org as a starting point.  Is anyone interested in working on
this project?  Can someone help me figure out how to best leverage the DP
wiki to document this as an official "experiment"?

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On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Paul Madsen <paul.madsen at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Anders, it was your exact use case (even to the names of Alice & Bob,
> although a Tony was also hanging around ) that drove the specification
> of the Liberty People Service
>
> - http://connectid.blogspot.com/2008/01/what-about-bob.html
> -
>
> http://connectid.blogspot.com/2006/01/liberty-people-service-for-group-based.html
> -
>
> http://www.projectliberty.org/liberty/content/download/890/6246/file/liberty-idwsf-people-service-v1.0.pdf
>
> paul
>
> anders conbere wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Julian Bond <julian_bond at voidstar.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>  anders conbere <aconbere at gmail.com> Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:45:55
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm not saying that I think that these tools by google were /bad/
> >>>
> >>  >ideas, I just think that their short comings should be talked about.
> >>  >It's /nice/ that I can build an facebook like app that works across
> >>  >any social network that supports the Open Social API's, but it sucks
> >>  >that I can't connect to users in another social network from with in
> >>  >it. I'm still bound to the social network I chose, entry and exit
> >>  >still aren't free. And I propose that they should be.
> >>
> >>  Anders, OpenSocial is not just the gadget and container APIs. It's
> also
> >>  the Data APIs and I believe these are intended to include (optional)
> >>  insert, update and delete methods. What is it in the APIs you think is
> >>  missing to do what you want?
> >>
> >
> > What I want most of all (if insert, update and delete methods are
> > included) is a way to bridge communication between networks. I want to
> > be able to build an application (like a facebook app), that allows
> > Alice in flickr to share photos with Bob in picassa. As far as my
> > reading of the OpenSocial api (admittedly only when it first came
> > out), the open social platform has only been about build apps on top
> > of existing networks. It had no way to uniquely reference users across
> > networks.
> >
> > Now I can imagine that the reason behind this is that the big networks
> > would never support a tools that began to limit the power of their
> > vendor lock in. But to me that's one of the big problems in the social
> > networking space.
> >
> > So the solutions thus far have involved "exporting the user data as
> > xfn or foaf", which is not really that great because now I get a
> > static copy of my friends from one network in another, and the tools
> > for re-aggregation and or pinging changes back just aren't there / are
> > too much work to bother with.
> >
> > Not to mention serveral different services all with the same copy of
> > my relationship data seems ... wasteful. To me this is something that
> > XMPP provides with their roster tools, and I can imagine solving with
> > FOAF plus some web services. Centralized stores of data in
> > decentralized networks with the ability to update themselves
> > dynamically to attempt to preserve some of the immediacy of human
> > interaction.
> >
> > ~ Anders
> >
> >
> >
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