[wsf-dev] naming?

[Scott Cantor]

> OpenLiberty-J   sounds good, I also like the uppercase "O"  -- makes
> it look stronger.

That one happened while I wasn't looking, and I tend to interchange them
because I like OpenLiberty more than openLiberty.

> The differentiation between wsc and wsp is
> important, however, as we have discussed many times before, the lines
> are very blurry.  The tooling that we have done for WSC would be re-
> useable for a WSP.

Which is why I don't make the distinction. Another example...Axis doesn't
come in a SOAP client and server version. It's just different parts of the
package.

> The only problem is that openLiberty covers more than ID-WSF at then
> moment.

My scope of ID-WSF is everything Liberty does that's not SAML. Admittedly
overly broad. My point is kind of that even if other non-WSF stuff is in the
pot, who cares?

> org.openliberty.xmltooling
>   -- where the base package for all of the java objects that represent
> the xml elements of the spec currently exist, eg,
> org.openliberty.xmltooling.disco

Just a personal opinion, but I would have turned it around and put the XML
classes inside the disco package.

> On the level of documentation, creating clear segregation between
> client and server is critical.  I imagine this would be done with use
> case sample code.

Yes, that's a different issue.

> Ideally we could get identity into the name in some way, and web
> services for that matter.  And it should be catchy.  OpenLiberty-J is
> catchy.

Well, it's not super catchy, but it's better than something with WSF in it.
You're not talking to somebody in marketing. To me Shibboleth is "catchy"
and I've been told it sucks, so...(in fairness I didn't come up with that
name either).

> Since ID-* is shorthand for ID-WSF, ID-SIS, ID-FF:

ID-FF is superseded, and I lump all the rest into ID-WSF, as I said.

> idSTAR-J

I think I would avoid anything like STAR.

> OpenLID-J

There was an OpenID competitor called LID, best to avoid that.

The basic problem is that there's no catchy name for ID-WSF. Unless you just
make up a name that's unrelated, it just doesn't lend itself to anything.
And speaking frankly, WSF is too unknown to developers to call it "Possum"
and just say "yeah, that's the WSF library". Liberty at least has a known
name.

-- Scott