Given the decision of the Steering Committee last night, I would suggest we kick-off an "experiment" using Liberty's People Service to support this use case. We have some Java library implementations of People Service at <a href="http://www.openliberty.org">www.openliberty.org</a> as a starting point. Is anyone interested in working on this project? Can someone help me figure out how to best leverage the DP wiki to document this as an official "experiment"?<br>
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</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Paul Madsen <<a href="mailto:paul.madsen@gmail.com">paul.madsen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Hi Anders, it was your exact use case (even to the names of Alice & Bob,<br>
although a Tony was also hanging around ) that drove the specification<br>
of the Liberty People Service<br>
<br>
- <a href="http://connectid.blogspot.com/2008/01/what-about-bob.html" target="_blank">http://connectid.blogspot.com/2008/01/what-about-bob.html</a><br>
-<br>
<a href="http://connectid.blogspot.com/2006/01/liberty-people-service-for-group-based.html" target="_blank">http://connectid.blogspot.com/2006/01/liberty-people-service-for-group-based.html</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.projectliberty.org/liberty/content/download/890/6246/file/liberty-idwsf-people-service-v1.0.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.projectliberty.org/liberty/content/download/890/6246/file/liberty-idwsf-people-service-v1.0.pdf</a><br>
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paul<br>
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anders conbere wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Julian Bond <<a href="mailto:julian_bond@voidstar.com">julian_bond@voidstar.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> anders conbere <<a href="mailto:aconbere@gmail.com">aconbere@gmail.com</a>> Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:45:55<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> I'm not saying that I think that these tools by google were /bad/<br>
>>><br>
>> >ideas, I just think that their short comings should be talked about.<br>
>> >It's /nice/ that I can build an facebook like app that works across<br>
>> >any social network that supports the Open Social API's, but it sucks<br>
>> >that I can't connect to users in another social network from with in<br>
>> >it. I'm still bound to the social network I chose, entry and exit<br>
>> >still aren't free. And I propose that they should be.<br>
>><br>
>> Anders, OpenSocial is not just the gadget and container APIs. It's also<br>
>> the Data APIs and I believe these are intended to include (optional)<br>
>> insert, update and delete methods. What is it in the APIs you think is<br>
>> missing to do what you want?<br>
>><br>
><br>
> What I want most of all (if insert, update and delete methods are<br>
> included) is a way to bridge communication between networks. I want to<br>
> be able to build an application (like a facebook app), that allows<br>
> Alice in flickr to share photos with Bob in picassa. As far as my<br>
> reading of the OpenSocial api (admittedly only when it first came<br>
> out), the open social platform has only been about build apps on top<br>
> of existing networks. It had no way to uniquely reference users across<br>
> networks.<br>
><br>
> Now I can imagine that the reason behind this is that the big networks<br>
> would never support a tools that began to limit the power of their<br>
> vendor lock in. But to me that's one of the big problems in the social<br>
> networking space.<br>
><br>
> So the solutions thus far have involved "exporting the user data as<br>
> xfn or foaf", which is not really that great because now I get a<br>
> static copy of my friends from one network in another, and the tools<br>
> for re-aggregation and or pinging changes back just aren't there / are<br>
> too much work to bother with.<br>
><br>
> Not to mention serveral different services all with the same copy of<br>
> my relationship data seems ... wasteful. To me this is something that<br>
> XMPP provides with their roster tools, and I can imagine solving with<br>
> FOAF plus some web services. Centralized stores of data in<br>
> decentralized networks with the ability to update themselves<br>
> dynamically to attempt to preserve some of the immediacy of human<br>
> interaction.<br>
><br>
> ~ Anders<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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